Is this rape?

A collection of tales from a group

My rape if you can call it that took place during sixth form and involved a girl who was my girlfriend and various members of her family. It had little long term effect on me particularly as I am naturally submissive to women. When I dated Chrissy I was a near virgin having done the deed once with a girl and also gone down on her and another girlfriend a few months later. Chrissy was a plump girl to be polite with gigantic breasts and bad skin and it was her who asked me out. The next night I took Chrissy to the cinema and during the picture we kissed and I rubbed her breasts then afterwards we went to her house. It was a tiny council house where she lived with her younger sister and her mother and was really tatty with no carpets unlike my own much nicer house. We went to her bed and petted and after I had kissed her breasts for ages she made me rub her pussy and then we had sex with at first me on top and then she rode me I came twice and she came at least once at the end. Afterwards she had me kiss her pussy and then she made me dress and go and as I did so her mother was up but just smiled at me as I left.
For the next three weeks I dated Chrissy as a boyfriend and we saw a lot of each other. Sexually she was in charge and I did as she wanted and every date started and ended in her bed. She trained me sexually it is fair to say and also made me go down on her many times even though she was unkeen to return the service. If I was unwilling or claimed to be tired she threatened me and several times she punched me in the stomach or even the groin to show she was in charge. She had several nasty habits including spitting and I recall several times lying under her and her loving me and spitting into my mouth. In fact one night she made me come with her to the bathroom and lie in the bath and she squatted over me and peed all over my naked body and then made me still covered in muck to go down on her before we washed.
Then we went to a party a typical drunken teenage affair where we had sex semi in public watched by a few girls I am sure. At the end of the party a group of her friends came up quite drunk and demanded a kiss and Chrissy grabbed me and held me still so they not only kissed me but urged on by her stripped me naked and assaulted my groin in a very painful manner. After that these girls took my clothing so I had to go with Chrissy with her fully dressed and I wrapped unsatisfactorily in her coat. We went to her house where she pulled me to her bed and slapped me several times to get me into action and I pleased her for ages until we were both so tired we fell asleep.
The next day I awoke to find myself trapped naked in her bed and for a couple of hours she kept me there using me as she wanted. Of course I had no clothes and Chrissy told me she had no trousers and suggested I went home in one of her skirts and I begged her to get me some more sensible clothing as no way could I walk though town wearing a dress. She wandered off and returned with her younger sister. Her name was Amy and like Chrissy she was a plump girl with even worse skin than Chrissy but was a lot darker in both hair and skin colour always looking sun tanned. She gave me a leer as Chrissy told me that Amy had some jeans that may fit me but wanted paying. I told Chrissy to pay her and I would give her the money but Chrissy said to my horror it was not money she wanted but sex. I blushed as Chrissy told me that Amy knew I liked to please a girl and wanted an hour with me for the jeans.
I could not turn her down and had to watch very worried as without shame Amy stripped and got in the bed with me. Worse Chrissy laughed and pulled her dirty dressing gown off and told me I was getting a male fantasy by having two sisters at once. Now yes it is a male fantasy but not forced sex with two girls after a night of sexual action. However after some rubbing I was hard and I licked Amy’s big round breasts and then was pushed by Chrissy onto Amy’s pussy and I went down on her. When Amy was excited I was pulled onto my back and after the girls had rolled a condom over my erection Amy rode me and while she did so Chrissy got oral off me. Then after both had come they changed over and had me the other way around. I did not come as I was worn out and by then Chrissy was finished as well. Amy was not and she made me follow her to her even dirtier bedroom where we got in her bed. She pushed me under her blankets and for ages I went down on her and rubbed her breasts as she lay moaning. Then I was pulled up and we had sex and then she made me lie as she rode me and I came into her and passed out. When I came around Amy and Chrissy had painted my dick and balls and dressed me in some of Chrissy’s underwear. Then I was allowed to put on the jeans and they were too tight to do up but worse all I had on top was a bra. I begged and finally in return for a night in Amy’s bed she gave me a T shirt and finally I looked okay to go and was allowed to limp off by the laughing girls. Luckily it was raining and I was able to get home without being seen.
However having been used at a party by Chrissy and having been stripped by a gang of girls and then forced by her sister I felt rotten. I did not ever want to see her but later that day she phoned and told me if I did not she would beat me up. I was worried but worse the next day in school Chrissy got me and pinned me to a wall and got her hands in my trousers and onto my balls and made good her threat by squashing them hard until I was in tears and happy to do as she wanted. Not that we did anything that day as she had hurt my balls so much I had to go home and lie with an ice pack on them and the marks of her finger nails red in them. While she had always been physically nasty to me this was the worse assault I had suffered and one that to be blunt terrified me so I was from then on too frightened to go against her bidding. This did not stop her assaulting me and later on I realised she got herself off on my pain.
The next night I again went to Chrissy’s house and we had sex and then I was ordered to go to Amy’s room and spend the rest of the evening with her. I found that Amy was as rough a girl was her sister and also spat at me and pushed her hand up my bottom during several exhausting hours of sexual activity. At about midnight I was told to leave but as I did so I was seen by the girls’ mother. She was a middle aged wreak of a woman called Brenda a loud mouthed woman who could be very crude and she leered at me and made a comment about sleeping with Amy when I should be in Chrissy’s bed making me blush. I then spent an hour with Chrissy and then left exhausted.
I had another week then a Chrissy’s boyfriend having sex just with her and luckily for me not seeing her sister at all. Then one evening when I got to Chrissy’s house I found her downstairs with her mother. To my surprise Chrissy grabbed me and pulled my jeans down in front of her mother who laughed at my distress. Then Chrissy got hold of my balls and told me she would give them a real big crush if I objected. I begged making both of them laugh and Chrissy told me to pull my pants up and then do a proper striptease as her and her mother wanted a laugh. I was embarrassed but terrified and amazingly also erect in my trousers as I sort of bobbed around removing my clothing in front of Chrissy and her mother. When I was naked Chrissy told me to keep dancing but to get closer and when I did so she grabbed my dick and rubbed me. Worse she pushed me to the side and to my disgust her mother did the same and I got even more excited. Then Brenda told me to fire for her making me go red all over to their amusement. I sort of rubbed myself and Brenda asked Chrissy was I a leg or breast man and when she replied tits Brenda gave a laugh and pulled her big dirty white shirt open. Her breasts were in a massive off white bra but she pulled them out and cupped them and told me to keep rubbing and come over them. I was horrified particularly as Chrissy was laughing and as the breasts while big had no real shape at all. However a slap from Chrissy on my naked bottom got me rubbing and to my disgusted surprise after a minute I did come over Brenda’s breasts. They found my orgasm funny and worse Brenda told me I should clean her tits and when I did not move Chrissy slapped my hard on the leg. Therefore I lent down and was soon licking my sticky white come of Brenda’s very dirty breasts. I had eaten my own come before twice once with Chrissy and once when younger on my own but found myself feeling sick even though logically is should not.
Then Brenda grabbed me and while I was still sensitive she rubbed me and I got erect. Then Brenda pulled her skirt up and told me she had not bothered with knickers today so I could get licking fast. I shuddered but saw Chrissy bunch her fist so quickly got to my knees and went down on Brenda. She smelt even worse than Chrissy ever did with thick pubic hair and what seemed to me a massive floppy vagina. However Brenda obviously liked what I was doing and was soon grunting in delight and came on me. Quickly Chrissy grabbed me painfully by the hair and I was pulled my face still wet from her mother’s pussy into hers and made to give her oral as well. Then my hair was grabbed my Brenda who pulled me up groped my dick to check I was hard and opened her legs and told me to get it up her but to hold back as she would want a few orgasms tonight. I groaned but moved forward and she swallowed me into her pussy. I moved in and out finding her slack and worse looking at her ugly red face sweating and hearing her grunting meant I only just stayed hard. The thing that kept me hard was the knowledge that Chrissy would beat my balls if I did not. Her mother came grunting loudly and I was pulled out and towards Chrissy. She however ordered me to lie on the floor on their filthy bit of old carpet and she got on me and rode me as her mother watched. Then her mother moved and let her breasts swamp me forcing me to rub and lick them as her daughter had me. After Chrissy had come she suggested her mother had a go on top making me groan and Chrissy told me to shut up and stay hard.
Brenda laughed and said she had not been on a man for over ten years but I seemed nice so she would. I lay appalled as the huge woman moved and replaced Chrissy on me. Her weight really hurt as she rode me making me groan as well. I think she assumed I was getting turned on because she told me to hold back but in reality I was only just holding my erection in her slack pussy. She came and got off and was replaced by Chrissy and once more I licked Brenda’s breasts as Chrissy rode me. This time I did get excited and as Chrissy pulled off I was close. Laughing Chrissy rubbed me until I came making them both laugh.
I hoped that was it but instead Brenda told me I could give her oral sex and she got on my face. If her on my groin had been bad having her on my face was disgusting but I licked away aware to my terror of Chrissy rubbing my dick and balls and knowing I had to get hard fast for her. Somehow by the time Brenda came I was hard and then Chrissy rode me again. Then it was Brenda again and then Chrissy and by then I ached from the weight and roughness of my riders. However by then the women were satisfied and I was allowed to get up feeling very bruised. However Chrissy told me to jerk off for them again. After a few minutes I had not come and Brenda took over making me moan with how rough she was. Then she pulled me onto the sofa and moved and she went down on me and to my amazement she licked me very sexily and I came into her mouth. Her response was to spit my come over my face and then before I could go soft get on me and ride me pinning me to the sofa. It was agony and I was crying and sobbing as she had me and worse Chrissy was pulling my hair and spitting at me and telling me my balls would go if I went soft. Brenda came very fast to my relief and even better Chrissy did not want me again so my dick was allowed finally to go soft even although it still ached. Then Chrissy told me to dress as we would be late for the cinema. I have no idea what we saw as I was in a daze and worse Chrissy unzipped me and rubbed me for most of the film. After the movie we went back to her house where luckily her mother and sister were not up and in her bed she used me until she was finished and exhausted she sent me away. However just before I left she grabbed me hard by the balls and gave me a choice to do as she and her family wanted or have my balls crushed and I had to agree not only to do as she wanted but also to agree I had loved screwing a mother and daughter team. In fact I cried for ages that night and had bruises all over from the sex.
Chrissy forced me to date her for another three months before to my great relief she dumped me for another lad and I know treated him as bad as she had done me. I had sex with Chrissy virtually every night during this time and much worse regularly with her gross mother as well even though to have both at once was actually quite rare. As for her sister I was used by her a few times but not that often even though on one particular Sunday all three used me one after another with Chrissy having numerous turns on me. When I was dumped I was incredibly relieved and it was over a year before I went to bed with another girl and the first few sessions I was so nervous it was as if I was a virgin again.


2nd tale


I was subjected to a very abusive relationship with a girl when I was at school and it went on for two whole years. The relationship was threatening and also violent. The girl herself was violent but the main threat at the start was her brother. It all started after my O levels when a girl in the third year asked me out. Her name was Sharon and she was a skinny boyish girl very immature with dark hair and skin. I said no and she kicked me in the ankle and called me a bastard. Now at the time I was an artistic boy who assumed I was going to make it big and intended to do art A levels. I was also I think an attractive boy so why should I date a young nothing like her? The answer I soon discovered was her brother. He was a boy in our year that had been expelled in the last term for fighting a teacher. His name was Russell and he was a large ignorant boy and already had a criminal record. His reputation and that of his friends was trouble so the next day they sought me out when I cycling with a friend. They forced him to leave pulled me from the bike and pushed me around. Then Russell told me I had upset his sister. I told him I had not touched her assuming he was worried about her dubious chastity. He told me that was not it but instead she wanted to date me and I was to do as she wanted. I was confused until he told me my job was to keep her away from him so I gathered correctly that he had been told to look after her and found it annoying to have his younger sister around him all the time. He then grabbed me and told me if she wanted my scrawny body she could have me but if she got pregnant he would kick the shit out of me. I felt sick but faced with a beating I agreed I would become her boyfriend and also to see her after lunch. He laughed told me where he lived and threw me to the ground and told me when I was with her I was to keep out of his way as no way was I his friend something I was happy about.
However being Sharon’s boyfriend did not appeal either but after lunch I cycled to her house as neither did a beating. Her house was one of the filthiest houses I had ever seen. It had two old rusty cars on what passed for a lawn and was much worse inside. The door was opened by Sharon who gave me a smile and invited me in and told me to come to her bedroom. I thought this was forward but actually the family had no family rooms fit for people to go in. In short Sharon was what the Americans call white trash. Sharon’s room was small with the only real furniture her bed so we sat on that. I felt awkward but she smiled and told me she knew her brother would make me see sense about us getting together. Then she smiled and told me I was a handsome boy and she liked my art work. I said thank you feeling I was on display. Then she asked what her brother had said and I told her. She smiled and told me that was good because if he had said no sex she was going to stab him. I blinked at that and then she touched my arm and told me as long as I was clear about her being in charge it should all be okay and I nodded. She then laughed and told me to cheer up as we would have a lot of fun together. I was unconvinced but smiled back at her and she suggested we lay down together and had a snog as she had fancied kissing me for weeks and we could talk later on. I again nodded and was soon lying on her bed finding her sheets smelt of musky sweat and were obviously hardly ever washed. She grabbed my head and kissed me pushing her tongue into my mouth. I then discovered not only did she have bad breath but also her teeth were in a very poor condition. However I kissed her back and then rubbed her neck and hair. We kissed for sometime and then she moved and undid her shirt and placed my hand on her chest. She was not wearing a bra but then hardly needed one as her breasts were tiny little things an A cup I soon after found out. However I rubbed her nipples and she moaned and kissed me harder. Then I moved a hand and rubbed her body and found she had no flesh at all and I could easily feel her ribs. She responded my wiggling and pushing my hand into the band of her skirt and I wiggled and entered her knickers. Her muff seemed to be hairless as I found her slit and sort of rubbed it. Then I found her clit and sort of massaged that rubbing her breast with my other hand while she kissed me. Soon she started to moan more and more and broke off kissing me and lay back and flexed her hips. I moved a finger and it slipped without me really meaning up her and she moaned loudly and orgasmed. She then pulled my hand out and gave me a smile and told me she knew I would be a great lover. She then kissed me again before telling me I was nice and cute as most guys demanded to come first and then were reluctant to get her off. I was surprised as I had sort of assumed she was more inexperienced than I was but as I was to discover Sharon had been sexually active for quite a few years.
Sharon then suggested we both got naked as it was hot and we had a lot more loving to do. I nodded feeling pleased to have got her to come but also unhappy about being with her. She stood and removed her clothing and I saw I was correct in that her breasts were hardly there and also that her muff only had a few pubes on it. Her legs were amazingly thin and she looked malnourished rather than slim. She also had a sweet sickly unwashed smell to her and that was worse as she got on the bed and helped me get naked. When I was naked her hands moved and she rubbed my cock and nuts telling me to my embarrassment I was a nice size. I got erect as she worked away but found her touch rough at the time I said nothing but later on when I did it made no difference she was always to rough on me. She then asked what the maximum number of times I could come was and I replied four even though I had never actually done that. She giggled and told me she could come ten times if she wanted. That again surprised me and I wondered what sort of weird girl she was. Then she told me she had sucked guys off before but no one had ever done her and lay back on the bed and opened her legs making it very clear what I was expected to do. There are I think many times in your life you make a choice and that affects you for years afterwards because what I did was move between her legs and that established who was in charge between us. If I had not done this but made her get me off we may have had a more equal relationship. Her muff had an odd taste like that of stale milk but she moaned as I kissed her slit. I had only myself ever once been down on a girl but I sort of knew what to do so licked away at her quite gently and then moved closer and sort of French kissed her with my lips and rubbed my tongue on her clit. Sharon moaned loudly and started to flex her hips in time to my licking and then her hands grabbed my hair and held me to her as within three minutes she came. As she rocked on my face I was glad she was a skinny girl was I was easily able to breathe. After her orgasm she pulled me up and told me I had a sticky face with a giggle and then told me to lie back as it was my turn. I let her push me back and into her mouth my cock went. I was unkeen as her teeth were so bad but she sucked and licked my cock and even though she was not good I came. She then moved up and spat my come out all over my clothing on the floor to my dismay. She then said we should have a drink and a chat and she put on a pink Barbie dressing gown now far to short for her and went and got us each a can of coke.
We had the drinks and sort of talked but I found her dim and shallow something that was not to change. This was hardly surprising as at school she was in the slow progress group even though to be fair she was better than that while I had been in the top sets. After thirty minutes she suddenly said we should screw and produced a packet of condoms. She then suggested I licked her a few times to get her ready so I did that. Then she moved and placed me to my astonishment on my back and rolled the condom over my cock. She then told me she was going on top as she had read that made a girl come the best. I was too stunned to reply as on she went and pushed me into her muff. I found her very tight and nearly painful as I was always to do while she moaned as I filled her in obviously delight. She then told me to lie still and let her do the work and to concentrate on not coming until she had come a couple of times. I nodded and let her seduce me. I was hard but not close to coming and her pussy felt rough against me as she bounced up and down on me. After quite a few minutes she came on me but after a few seconds resumed and this time grabbed my hands and got me to rub her nipples. By then I was feeling a tingly sensation from my groin so I knew I could come when I wanted. I fought it and rubbed her nipples as Sharon got off on me again and when she came I came myself. She sat on me and told me I was the greatest lover in the world something if another girl had said would have really boasted my ego but at the time said by an immature slag did not excite me. By then I had already realised that Sharon had been with a lot of men or boys and I correctly guessed these were mainly Russell’s friends and therefore another reason for giving me to her was to stop her screwing his friends and making him feel small.
Sharon then got off me and we lay and chatted and after some time she rubbed me roughly hard and told me we were going to try some different positions to see if they were better than her on top. My feelings were not considered as she got me hard and in another condom and we tried position after position. We did it one way until she wanted a change and then we moved to the position she wanted to try next. We did it side by side then from behind with various leg positions and then with me on top pumping away. Sharon came when I was doing her from behind but told me she still preferred to be on top. As for me I liked being on top as well but she did not and told me we would not do that again. Instead she went on top and we did it with her leaning forward then back on my knees and reversed on me. Sharon told me all ways with her on top were nicest for her so that was how we would do it. Then she moved and made me rub her breasts as she bounced on me until we came. I had said I could come four times but as I discovered three was my real limit. However I was hard enough for Sharon as she stayed on me and after fitting a new condom bounced around on me for over an hour. I let her have me kissing her and rubbing her as she wanted and six more times she came on me but showed to my mounting horror no sign of being finished. I was as my cock ached as did my nuts and as she gripped me in her muff it started to really hurt. When I complained she just laughed at me as she seduced me. Several times I felt a pain in my groin but it was not an orgasm. Finally Sharon got off me but moved up me and told me I could watch her wank and as I lay tired she positioned her muff over my face and rubbed herself off treating her muff quite rough as she did so. I found it perverse rather than exciting and then after she had come she demanded I licked her once more and moved me down so I had to. I licked her off feeling sick and she took quite a long time to come before getting finally off me. Sharon then told me she had come fourteen times a new record for her but reckoned she could do it all again. I told her no way could I making her laugh and then I told her had to go for my tea. She told me I could but demanded I visit her the next morning and grudgingly I agreed.

Part two
Thank for the comments and no I do not intend to write pages about Sharon. After my first day with her the next day was more of the same and in fact for the six weeks of the summer holidays I spent five days a week in her room. We hardly seemed to go out and I knew by the end of the time she was a very strange girl indeed. As for sex we had loads of it far too much even for a fit teenage male to cope with. After a week my groin ached but Sharon always was ready for more. I knew my sexual limit was three orgasms and some painful tingles but that was that for me and as for her well she once in a day came twenty-six times and it was rare then for her to come less than twelve times. By the end of the holidays I thought of her as iron muff so tough did her muff seem to me. She was still far too tight to be really comfortable and still smelt. However she smelt less because frankly I was licking her body on such a regular basis that it was my tongue keeping her clean.
Virtually all the time she was on top and she was always on top when my cock was in her grinder of a muff. While we did not experiment with positions she made me try many more things with her. Firstly she rubbed my cock with many things and made me do the same thing as well even though she did not like me to come then. One thing she did was always at least once and frequently more at the end of a session she would jerk herself off while on my face. She also enjoyed making me eat my come and also one day several condoms that her brother and friends had filled with some girls as well. That I hated and she was really nasty to make me do that. However by then she had already made me go into their bathroom where in the bath she had pissed all over me and also made me lie mouth open and let her piss into it. That was not the worse as once she shat all over me truly revolting but luckily even Sharon found that gross. Another thing she loved and I hated was inserting things into my body. On our third day she produced a small white vibrator she owned and stuck that up me and from then on my bum was open house for her. She was so gross she would stick her hand right up me and then make me lick it clean. It was not just her hand but anything she fancied that went up my bum. And I do mean anything during my time with her I reckon she shoved over a thousand different things up me including I remember the phone, a doll, a hockey stick handle, a spanner, an electric plug and numerous different bottles. However the most things pushed in were vegetables of all sorts but she particularly loved to use a carrot or a cucumber on me and then make me eat it. Three times she hurt my bum so much it bleed but somehow I did not die from it. That was not the worse because she also pushed things into my cock as well. This started after a week when she had exhausted me she got me hard and rammed up my cock a wire with a flag on really hurting me. At the end of the holiday she stuck a pencil in my cock and it took me over an hour in the shower to manipulate it out. You may wonder why I put up with it as I disliked her but I was also terrified of her and the more I was with her the more I realised how violently unstable she was. In fact she made her brother seem like an angel so disturbed was she. She talked a lot about stabbing people and had a collection of knives and later was suspended from school for waving one in another girls face. Therefore while I was worried about Russell beating me up I was more worried about Sharon killing me. Much more terrifying was once after about three weeks her sitting on me holding a knife and discussing with me what it would be like for me to become a eunuch.
Anyway after the worse summer I could have imagined we returned to school and me to sixth form. However I was still her boyfriend and now it became public to the great amusement but also bafflement of my friends and peers. Everyday I had to see her at lunchtime and much worse when we had eaten our sandwiches we went somewhere a little more private and she removed her knickers and I either lay down or knelt and went under her skirt. When it got colder we were several time seen by other pupils and I suffered quite a lot of teasing from my peers because of this. Then after school I would walk her home and into her bed where she seduced me. Even worse she wanted me now to take her out so at least three times a week I picked her up later. Sometimes we just went to the pictures or even stayed in but frequently it was parties. Sometimes they were okay but mostly she had a few drinks and behaved appallingly. She several times got into fights when I was with her and twice hurt another girl badly. Mainly I stopped her doing this by letting her use me. She loved to show her power over me when drunk by making me kiss her and let her publicly grope me. At one party she was very drunk and she got a knife and in the kitchen in front of about a dozen girls from her year she made me strip and knell and lick her off as they laughed at me. At another party with quite a few of the same girls she not only made me strip but let them touch me and also got me to go down on three of them as a laugh. The worse party was about six months after that where she seduced me on a sofa watched by another all female group including quite a few from before and then the whole group groped me and Sharon rammed a bottle up my bum before I must have given head to six of them as well as been seduced by four of them. This party finished with me bent over the sofa and Sharon and three other girls taking turns to ram things in and out of my bum. The grand finale was that Sharon made me walk her home with me totally naked something she had done before but this time three of the girls came with us and made me dance around and amuse then by pretending to have sex with things like post boxes. By then for her amusement but also because I think she wanted to stop me straying Sharon had not only made me shave my legs and pubes but also to have her name written on my cock even though by then her muff was covered in thick black pubes making her even smellier to lick. However these public events only took place when she was drunk and usually she was a very jealous type and I only had to talk to a girl to get trouble. Then she would scream at me and then kick and hit me. Usually the beating finished with her smacking my nuts until I could not move and then sitting on me and abusing my bum or cock. Usually after a beating I was ill for a day but once was off school for three days as my nuts were so swollen and I had to tell the doctor it was a sports accident.
Finally after my A levels Sharon also left school not having done her final exams but having kept me as her boyfriend for two whole years. We finished with a month of exhausting togetherness every day. By then Russell her brother was inside for a long time on a drug and violence charge and I knew Sharon was taking pills because sometimes she made me as well. Her mother was a mess and they had no father but someone in the family stepped in. Sharon had an aunt who lived in Italy and she went there and I was able to escape and get away to university. I have to say I avoided coming home and for several years dreaded a phone call or visit from her. At university I had quite a few girlfriends including a couple of rough dominant girls but nothing as strange as Sharon. Then five years after leaving for university I saw her in a pub and she came over and talked to me. I felt sick as she did so but she did not want to seduce me but just to chat. She told me she had returned after a year and had then had two kids with a guy who had now left her but she had got a nice flat out of the council. She was as scrawny as ever and looked sick and I was sure she was on drugs. We talked for a bit with me telling her I lived in a completely different city from the one I did and then she wandered off. Another guy in the pub told me she was on the game but I am not sure he was right but she certainly seemed a sad thing. I have to say seeing her semi broken made me feel safer and better.